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During the 70s, he sold many of his ballrooms but adapted others
into rock venues. These included The Crystal in Dublin (which became
McGonagles), The Carousel in Manchester (The International 2) and
The Carousel in Camden Town (the Electric Ballroom). He made a
point of turning up at the latter five months after it had opened
to see Thin Lizzy play
with Bob Geldof, Paul Cook and Steve Jones.
“Phil Lynott was good, he worked
for me a lot,” he says. “And what’s the other boy called? A big tall boy from
Dublin who played rock - Bob Geldof, that’s it! I remember one night there was
Phil and Geldof and some other lads, there were three famous groups and I put
them all together and I said, ‘How much do you want?’ They said they wanted 75
per cent of the door and I said, ‘You’re a right crowd of greedy bastards!’ When
I went back to the Ballroom, there was a big poster with ‘The Greedy Bastards’ written
on it. I could handle the contrariest of musicians, you know. I remember Jack
Parnell wrote a jazz tune one time called The Fuller Bounce. He had the greatest
bunch of musicians, but they were all headers in those days, and he used to reckon
I was the only man who could run his tour. I’d look after the band and I’d roadie
myself. After the show, we’d have a great party and then the following morning
we’d pull out at round 8 or 9 in the morning, Which is a hard thing for musicians.
But I’d get them into the groove.”
Asked about the secret of his success, Bill
Fuller smiles and says: “I worked with the trends of the people. I gave them
what they wanted and I gave them the best of it. It meant a lot to me to see
people enjoying entertainment at a decent price. And I never went for any hocus
pocus. But any fellas arguing with me about money, I’d stick it up his jumper
[laughs].”
By the late-80s, Bill Fuller had decided to focus most of his attention on rock
mining in Las Vegas. “I came out here and got an old mine going up the
hill,” he says, “and decided to turn my life around another bend.”
The nearest thing that Camden Town has to a Bill Fuller these days is Vince Power,
a one-time antiques dealer from Waterford who owns nine bars and live music venues
in London and also organises five annual outdoor festivals, including Reading
and the Phoenix. A big fan of country music, Power went to Nashville in the 70s
and dreamed of building his own honky tonk in North London. That dream became
the Mean Fiddler in Harlesden, which opened in 1981, after Power had spent a
year building it
himself.
“ It was a later version of Bill Fuller,” says Power. “Do everything yourself,
because you really haven’t got the money or the know-how. I just knew that I
wanted my own honky tonk - a really nice, clean place with cold beer, good music
and a band playing at the end of the bar. The original drawing to get licensing
was done by an architect, but after that we made it up as we went
along.”
By the late-80s, Power’s expanding empire had crossed circles with Bill
Fuller’s decreasing one. Power had set his sights on Fuller’s Dublin Castle club,
McGonagles, and - like Bill Graham before him - realised that the only way to
do a deal was by flying halfway across the world to meet the owner.
“ I got into
Las Vegas at about 11pm at night,” says Power, “went to a dodgy hotel, because
for some reason the place was booked out and I couldn’t find a decent one, and
then I met Bill Fuller for breakfast at 9am in the Desert Inn. He came in and
we started talking about everything apart from the deal. He told me about his
mine and wanted to bring me out to have a look at it. Then when we eventually
got around to talking about a deal on McGonagles, he just said, ‘How much?’ I
mentioned a figure of what I thought the place was worth and he jumped about
three feet off the ground and said, ‘If I was a young man I’d hit you’ - and
he walked off. I had just spent 12 hours on a plane to see him, and that was
the end of Bill Fuller. He didn’t even pay for the breakfast!”
The deal came
to nothing, but there were no hard feelings on either side. “I usually bump into
Bill Fuller in Camden or Dublin,” says Power. “He treats me like a young lad
and tends to give me advice. He says, ‘When I was your age’ or ‘You should eat
better and look after yourself’ and all that business. He’s a great character;
he’s unique.”
Although Bill Fuller now feels at home in the other rock business
- “up in the mountains, with the rattlesnakes” - he hasn’t ruled out the possibility
of returning to rock’n’roll, even though it is now 60 years since he took over
The Buffalo Ballroom on Camden High Street.
“ I might make a comeback in my old
age,” he says. “I’d still like to build four of five big places - maybe in Seattle
or in Portland, and then I’ll come down again to San Francisco and LA. I’ll set
those places off again, before I kick the bucket.”
And what about his ballroom
in Camden Town? “Oh, I’ll keep Camden until I move out of this world,” he says. “It
was the first place of my own that I had, so I wouldn’t dream of parting with
it. Camden will never be sold.”
Bill Fuller, November 17, 1996, Country Star, Las Vegas
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